And once again, we see the Sui Generis community spring into action! You guys rock!
I just have to jump in here and ask, if the pixel fill rate GP/s is what's most important for SG, would my old 5970 - 46.4GP/s outperform a titan?Nvidia GTX 580 = 37 GP/s
Nvidia GTX 680 = 32.2 GP/s
Nvidia GTX 760 = 31.6 GP/s
Nvidia GTX 770 = 33.5 GP/s
Nvidia GTX 780 = 41.4 GP/s
Nvidia GTX Titan = 40.2 GP/s
AMD 7970 Ghz = 32 GP/s
i looked around and switched the WD Desktop Black 1TB with a Seagate Barracuda® 1TB for 30£ less, so why not use those 30£ on the i7-4770K about the os, i agree. after i chose pro (didnt cost that much more than home premium) i started reading about what pro has that home doesnt, for those who dont know, and i got no use for the extra pro gives so im jumping back to premium. im looking around on different motherboards, but if im going for a different one then maybe ill go for MSI Z87-G45 Gaming or ASUS Z87-AMuch better!
Didn't realise there was a 4771, but it sounds like a pointless chip (Intel just bumped the clock speed up 100mhz to match the unlocked 4770k)... Just as Rob said I'd suggest getting the 4770k instead if you're going to overclock, and you really might as well, just a little bit, it's only another £30!
To save a few quid to cover the chip cost you could switch the (slightly overpriced and really no better!) WD Black HD to a Seagate or any other cheap model. You could also consider a Home Premium license as there's really no benefit to Pro. If you're really not fussed about the chip then you might as well get a slightly cheaper motherboard too! Or not!
What Rob said!
Sounds like quite an expensive system, are you building it yourself? If you tell me more of your requirements I'd be happy to help
Thanks guys! I'm a total noob when it comes to these things. I'm so glad I asked here before getting anything.Hi Oona,
See posts above to Parco - upshot: look at getting an intel CPU instead.
What need have you got for 32GB? Are you planning on using a RAMdisk? In which case don't, get a ssd instead.
8-16GB RAM total would be fine, and might reduce your voltage requirements allowing you to achieve lower latencies. It's most important for you to have the number of RAM chips equal to the number of channels (not ports) on your motherboard.
Edit: basically, I'm saying that 2x8GB would be more sensible than 4x8Gb.
See above posts to Parco - upshot: look at nvidia.
See above posts to Parco - upshot: consider also getting an SSD for your system volume.
See above posts to Parco - upshot: 850/1200W is overkill, get quality over quantity.
Any more questions? Ask away!
i know, but you could say its a nice upgrade from what im already using the plain old microsoft keyboard, a 4 year old razer deathadder (it started doubleclicking on single clicks, really really annoying) and the headset is a quite old creative HS-450 (1 cm of the bronze wire is exposed on it, this pretty much sums up why) so i guess it will be a upgrade from what i already got and its cheapCM Storm Devastator - MS2K & MB24
CM Storm Ceres 400 Gaming Headset
I'd definitely invest in a mechanical keyboard and a decent mouse.
Also, a better headset (unless you are planning to use your speakers a lot).
Just don't become an addict and start buying a new keyboard/caps every week lol.
The mouse most definitely won't (if we overlook the fact that it's broken).i know, but you could say its a nice upgrade from what im already using the plain old microsoft keyboard, a 4 year old razer deathadder (it started doubleclicking on single clicks, really really annoying) and the headset is a quite old creative HS-450. so i guess it will be a upgrade from what i already got and its cheap
Then the devil will be in the details. We didn't mention noise earlier when looking at Parco's build. Whether or not it causes noise heavily depend on exactly what brand and model you pick for various components - this is something we didn't look into earlier. There will primarily be three things that cause noise:I'm looking for a powerful gaming system to last me at least three/four years, but something quiet, not one of those big noisy machines.
Thanks! You're awesome!Then the devil will be in the details. We didn't mention noise earlier when looking at Parco's build. Whether or not it causes noise heavily depend on exactly what brand and model you pick for various components - this is something we didn't look into earlier. There will primarily be three things that cause noise:
If you want a quiet PC then you'll have ensure that these are as quiet as possible. To do this, you'll have to read the reviews, and even better component roundups. You can always change the CPU fan at a later date (i.e. get an aftermarket cooler), but once you choose a PSU and graphics card you're stuck with them, so it's really worth doing your research (unless you also plan on getting an aftermarket graphics card cooler also...). Case fans are easy to replace and/or slow down, so that's not a major concern at this stage. For the CPU and GPU, the best solution is watercooling, but that's very expensive to do right, and I certainly wouldn't recommend that if this is your first build!!! Finding a quiet PSU can be tricky, and can be a bit hit and miss unless you spend a lot of money - first off, look for one that's high efficiency (e.g. at least gold rated) and an appropriate wattage for your build (e.g. ~750W should be more than enough for a single graphics card setup). The general rule is bigger fans = quieter fans. Don't get anything with nasty little whizzy fans on it. Building a truly quiet PC can be a challenge, but is also lots of fun - I've got a pretty powerful gaming PC that's (almost) as quiet as a HTPC, so it is possible - I've got to the stage where the loudest thing in the PC is the 7200rpm mechanical hard disks (nasty whizzy things)!
- CPU fan
- GPU fan
- PSU fan
- Case fans
Alienware is pretty much the next level of Mac or Iphone, it's a good and reliable product that you can, get for under half the price from another brand.
From my own experience, I would gladly recommend Corsair to anyone who is buying a pc, now I'm not as cunning as Rob or Brendan (so take their words before mine) But it's a product that to me says Quality.thought so, well im still going to build my own, its usually the cheapest way (unless there is a sale somewhere)
i need to start paying more attention to different brands so i know the pros and cons, so far i havent really cared that much.
I noticed this as well, hence I mentioned Why I personally prefer Nvidia nowadays over AMD GPUs.Remember to keep in mind that people tend to be very attached to their own products and recommend them ignoring any flaws.
Yeah, I heard the same about Alienware. I've only ever used Dell and Intel, but I don't know how much more expensive their already built systems are compared to building one yourself, with the same components. Personally I think if I get the components on my own I'll make a dumb mistake that's common sense to people who know this stuff.Alienware is pretty much the next level of Mac or Iphone, it's a good and reliable product that you can, get for under half the price from another brand.
In other words, Alienware pc are extremely overpriced. It's not a bad product, it's just over twice as expensive as an equilivent product would cost from another brand.